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My above comment was silence.
On the aside; how many takes did you need to get 2 minutes of constant, straight faced footage?!
Great segment.
Joanne, that was SPOOKY!!! (But I couldn\’t agree more. Good show.)
-s
“Elwood the Ugliest Dog”
http://www.ilovepoetry.com/viewpoem.asp?id=92600
The day you count on the congress to safe your industry, your industry is dead! The internet is not the beginning or the end of fremdom of expression, but just a tool.
Regards,
Denis
Joanne, you\’re a patient person. I wouldn\’t be able to keep a face like for two minutes. Kudos.
Also, what happened to the weekday that used to be next to the date? It\’s not that I don\’t know what day it is today, but when browsing the atchives one year from now I might want to know.
Good show, but one of the quotes was a little overstated. The royalty rates only apply to Internet radio, not all streaming music.
So even if all net radio disappears tomorrow, you can still discover new music by checking out live concerts at archive.org.
Support live music!
It seems weird to actively not listen to internet radio today… I\’ve been doing that to old radio for years now.
I’ve done some rummaging, and it seems that the Canadian government is trying to shield internet radio based here from this ruling. We have our own equivalent, but it’s a bit more realistic; 15%/mo or a minimum of 200$, not retroactive. It’s still a bit steep for more private organizations, though I’m sure that college and publicly funded radio (esp. the CBC) will be fine.
There’s just one thing that nobody seems to be saying, so I’m not sure if this is just me not understanding the issues or if this is just too nitpicky a point to be able to find after 15min of Googling about; if a song isn’t copywritten - if it’s an unsigned artist or an artist under the creative commons, for example - does the RIAA still charge a station for playing their music? If not, then pretty much all that they’re doing is guaranteeing that internet radio will switch to a more AM-type of approach and focus on local unsigned artists. In a sense, the CRB ruling would kill internet radio in that we could no longer listen to the vast majority of the artists we already know, but on the other hand, couldn’t it also lead us to rely more on artists who refuse to sign to a label, and therefor fall under the RIAA umbrella? It’s probably common opinion that the RIAA is shooting themselves in the foot (again), but they may be doing this to the advantage of unsigned artists.
Incidentally, Canada’s CBC3 - which is exclusively a webcast - mostly broadcasts unsigned talent. Not to cheap out, but because of one of their mission statements to endorse domestic talent, especially that which has had problems gaining recognition. A big-label-free internet radio is possible, is all I’m saying.
And to Joanne and all the other lovelies at Rocketboom; thanks for keeping us informed.
I have to ask what world am I living myself into?
Ya deaf or somethin\”
I hate to be the one to bring this up, but you did a “silent stare” a while back already.
Having said that, I think the point is extremely well-taken. Choking off Internet radio is stupid, short-sighted and flies in the face of everything the Web can and should be doing for people.
The RIAA must be run by some serious dinosaurs. Too slow to jump on the wave, they have tried instead to sue the ocean into ceasing and desisting. Fruitless, of course, though there are victims, of course. Imagine having these guys scam you into signing a four-figure consent decree because you know going to court will run you five figures. That’s the sort of business practice that makes Karl Rove go, “Hmm, wait a second….”
I note with glee on reddit that someone who successfully fended off RIAA in court is now suing them back. I hope she gets $3 million.
BTW Joanne, you have a world-class drop-dead stare. And some of the loudest blinks on earth.
Great - this really puts the message across - I wonder how pople outside the US can petition against this?
Your quote from CreateDigital.com is misleading. AM/FM stations actually pay a significant percentage of their annual gross revenues to BMI, ASCAP and SESAC plus they are also paying outrageous fees to RIAA for the right to stream their
broadcast signal which is absurd because it\’s merely a simulcast of their pre-existing broadcast. Historically, the artists have made their money from unit sales inspired by the free advertising they\’ve received for years over terrestrial radio. It was a win/win relationship: the radio stations provided artists\’ free exposure in exchange for
the right to play the music and the artists earned their money from the sales generated by radio exposure. Now the artists claim that they\’ve been screwed and want AM/FM stations to both pay them and provide free exposure. Perhaps the radio stations should pay the RIAA fees but then, to be fair, charge the artists normal 60 second commercial rates per each minute of the song\’s length for exposure and also receive a percentage of the gross music sales revenues for the zip codes that they serve ?
After the pitiful performance of our Senate today regarding the amnesty bill, I\’m fairly confident that our protests will continue to fall on deaf ears. Hey, that must be the problem — deaf ears. Why would our representatives in Congress be interested in internet radio? They can\’t hear! Save me my Pandora!
I listen to internet radio all the time, especially through iTunes. This issue has been on the burner for months now, glad you finally got around to it.
And for the a-holes who thought up this genius bit of legislation…here\’s a model just for you!
http://cleanishappy.com/
maybe it\’ll spray some sense into all involved…
Well, someone offer some suggestions. I don\’t even know how to contact my representative in Congress. Any help?
What about a petition, has anyone started a petition website for people to sign?
bumper, go to this site, you should find all the info you need
http://www.live365.com/choice/
Got backup…?
The GREAT thing about internet radio is that you don\’t have to listen to this trash!
http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/music/la-et-clarkson26jun26,1,251010.story?track=rss&ctrack=1&cset=true
(I\’m referring to the music, the artist, the celeb-pop BS-the crap that goes for music today…with internet radio you are FREE to soar wherever your heart leads you.)
I can\’t help thinking that the RIAA seems intent on playing the pantomime villain. Horse has bolted mate - try reining it in but it isn\’t going to get back in that stable…
Reminds of a young Andy Warhol… n yeah i\’ll be contacting my congress woman.
Save Net Radio here
Scratch that, same site, sorry, duh!
This new ruling has been reported months ago but last minute actions seem to be the norm for governments (hmm didn\’t they OK the invasion of some middle east place at the last minute)
So I get the silence idea, but would it not be better if Joanne was singing/talking and we just couldn\’t here her?
I blinked.
This issue affects me directly. I live off road in a gully where the ridge lines interfere with radio reception for all but one station, one I find torturous. On the other hand, they also block all TV. So, silver lining.
There is a cell phone tower four or five miles south as the crow flies, in line with the open end of my gully. It is my only connection with the human world other than either loading into the truck and driving to town or the rare encounter with a human neighbor on trails.
(I try to keep a bottle handy for the latter. I have received some of the best advise for problems in town when sulking and musing up the trails to my cabin and happening upon a drunken neighbor or two. I think that alone is why I still live off road, since some of my favorite critters got shot and the trouble and isolation of living in mud and terrain and heavy growth no longer brings me in contact with their lovely being-ness.)
My cell phone is my 132k modem. I listen to Internet radio with it. (I write comments with it! However, I download Rocketboom from faster connections in town.)
Internet radio is a good international connection to the human world, to news and to culture, far better than TV or top 40 rock from the \’70s, aaaaaarrrrrrggggggghhhhhh! And thus, my fury/feather/bespeckled neighbors always know when I am about.
I will send my representative handwritten letters.
Please forgive my wandering. :)
–
freeman
IF … THEN … OR ELSE …
Well, they\’ll sue ya when you\’re trying to be so good,
They\’ll sue ya just a-like they said they would.
They\’ll sue ya when you\’re tryin\’ to download.
Then they\’ll sue ya when you\’re feelin\’ glum and blue.
But I would not feel so all blue,
Everybody must get sued.
Well, they\’ll sue ya when you\’re walkin\’ \’long the street.
They\’ll sue ya when you\’re swingin\’ to the beat.
They\’ll sue ya when you\’re walkin\’ on the floor.
They\’ll sue ya when you\’re walkin\’ to the door.
But I would not feel so all blue,
Everybody must get sued.
They\’ll sue ya when you\’re at the breakfast table.
They\’ll sue ya when you are young and able.
They\’ll sue ya when you\’re tryin\’ to make a buck.
They\’ll sue ya and then they\’ll say, \”good luck.\”
Tell ya what, I would not feel so down and blue,
Everybody must get sued.
Well, they\’ll sue you and say that it\’s the end.
Then they\’ll sue you and then they\’ll come back again.
They\’ll sue you when you\’re riding in your car.
They\’ll sue you when you\’re playing your guitar.
Yes, but I would not feel so glum and blue,
Everybody must get sued.
Well, they\’ll sue you when you walk all alone.
They\’ll sue you when you are walking home.
They\’ll sue you and then say you are brave.
They\’ll sue you when you are set down in your grave.
But I would not feel so all unglued,
Everybody must get sued.
Aerospace, defense, farmers and big ag, oil and energy, banking, and countless other industries both large and small are routinely saved by acts of Congress -and it usually costs you and me plenty. In this case it is the the RIAA who wants to cripple Internet radio because they see it as a threat -as they saw the cassette tape, the VCR, recordable CDs and Itunes -and fixing it won\’t cost you a dime!
It is important to know that Internet radio broadcasters are not saying they won\’t pay -but paying ten times the fee other broadcasters pay will effectively put most of them out of business. The fees are also retroactive to Jan 1, 2006 which may push many small companies and individuals into bankruptcy.
No surprise with this administration that the Copyright Royalty Board is only too happy to oblige the RIAA. Add the attempts to kill network neutrality and what will we have? An Internet increasingly controlled by big money with bland, dumbed down, play-to-the-masses content in the fast lane -and small business, innovative websites and free expression taking the frontage road. Bit by bit (pardon the pun) the freewheeling, innovative nature of the Internet will be chipped away if we ignore these initial attacks.
I called all my Congresspeople yesterday. Click on your state and CongressMerge will give you the numbers for all your representatives. You\’ll get a staffer but they tally calls and positions. Calls are better than e-mails but in any case, if you care, contact them and ask them to cosponsor or support The Internet Radio Equality Act S. 1353 in the Senate and H.R. 2060 in the House. While you\’re at it ask them to support Network Neutrality.
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