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Just Beautiful!!! Thank you,
-s
nice, but would be very interesting to have a short description of all the visited places (with dotsub for instance)
Civilisation.
Nice! Good choice of music too.
order in the midst of chaos
I’m glad you visited the Wailing Wall. And showed some of the beauty of Israel. The incredible history it contains which has been salvaged through painstaking archeological work to take us back in time.
Had this been your first report or others like it, I don’t think the firestorm we witnessed would have erupted, because how can you attack magical beauty and art. This was a surprise as I just got home and was curious to see where Friday’s ep (which I thought was Casual Friday) was heading. I’m glad you decided on a “shabbat” day of rest and presented the high class casual friday’s we have become accustomed to watching.
Shabbat Shalom
Yes, it was a Good Friday the 13th
(I just posted this on the previous ep from this morning. I thought I should post here too, just in case some of you didn’t return to the previous episode: Friday The 13th-Part 1)
You know what the best thing that came out of this entire week?
It was the fact that all you RBers came out of the woodwork and finally commented. I’ve invited others to join in on comments board on several occasions without much success. If you like RB, the comments section is an important and contributive part of the sense of community.
I noticed there is chat room now. I haven’t visited yet as I only know 3 or 4 regulars from their posts, so if more of you continue to post on a regular
or once-in-a-while basis, then the chat room could become a cool hangout for
times when you just want to hang out.
Another reason I dare not step into the chat room is I spend an extraordinary amount of time (way too much really) finding fun B-links to post. So maybe one day I’ll have the time or urge to chat. Too bad we needed a tornado (Mike Dixon) and a venom slugfest to get you here…but as the saying goes: Out of the darkness, comes light. Out of the bad, goodness appears.
I hope all of you will continue to post, even on wacky days. As the regulars know, those are my favorite episodes. Right Drew. Joanne! Hope you guys have a tan.
b
Grammar Man & Typo Man are at it again. Sorry!
@ B-man:
Mega duckie got scooped today by another popular vblog; Ehrensenf, done in German. Unfortunately they didn\’t credit you with the find!
OM SHANTI
B-man, I invite you to come over to http://www.headshaker.com and straighten those people out too.
I saw three big issues raised by the episodes this week and the comments that followed.
First came the episodes themselves. They were OK although I thought they were thin. On a couple of shows you basically let a guy walk you around who gets paid to make Israel look good.
Any reporter recognizes this guy. We have all been led around by him. Many of us have then gone home and written a “one-source wonder†story based on the information he fed us. These stories serve “the explainer†but they can screw your audience out of the truth. It’s the same damnable thing Tony Snow and his buddies in the White House Press Corps do to us every day.
It is a lot of fun to get invited up into a chopper, and as you roll tape (or digital) you know you’re getting dramatic stuff. Did they jack you into the chopper’s sound system? Sure sounded that way. How nice of them. Guess why they went to the trouble.
But it’s OK. You guys are not seasoned international correspondents – well, Joanne is, but I think to this point she’s covered more scuba spots than war zones. You had a fun and interesting trip and told us about it. Like a number of other commenters I urged viewers to take the reports for what they were and seek out more info to round out the picture, and I prepared to move on.
Issue 2 arose when Drew et al. defended the pieces, saying that RB made no pretense of being “fair and balanced,” had no journalistic expectations to live up to, etc.
I thought, and still do, that giving yourself that pass is too easy. When you say oh, our audience is smart, they’ll seek out more information, it’s almost like you’re saying that whatever you produce has no meaning or importance. old man was one of those who warned you’d lose credibility if you were led around by the nose. That’s something you’ll have to deal with all the time, whether you call yourselves journalists or not.
But again, I said what I felt about that and was ready to move on.
And then came Issue 3, when B-Man and some others took it upon themselves to scream bloody murder at anyone who dared speak ill of Israel, or whom they deemed insufficiently angry at the Palestinians. Then came people screaming back that Israel was to blame. Soon it got tiresome to see those long, vitriolic screeds winding down the screen.
It’s almost censorship. Ask a question someone doesn’t like and you’ll get 700 words back telling you why you’re a fool and a lover of baby killers to even ask. It’s the comments-board equivalent of turning up your stereo even louder, so your pesky neighbor will quit asking you to turn it down and shut his window.
This board should not be a place where that happens. We should respect each other. Write long screeds that I don’t like if you must. I’ll just buzz past them or respond with my own words. But don’t diss me. And don’t post 20 times in a day, avenging every disagreeing comment, unless you want to be writing for an audience of one. By about comment 18 no one else will be ready to listen to you.
I think RB can do whatever the hell it wants. I like the show and the people who make it, I admire a lot of what you do, whether it’s belt-sander racing or chopper rides in far-off places, and I’ll keep watching. I know you’re not saints. I still think you screwed Amanda, for example, and if you ever did decide you wanted to be journalists, you’d need to work harder than you do now sometimes.
All that’s fine. You still do a good show.
And this board remains an interesting place. I don’t think RB needs to up the moderation or anything. For the most part we get along pretty well.
But this week was ugly – not wacky. And I hope we don’t go there again.
Have a nice weekend, folks. If anyone wants me I’ll be in the Mall of America, looking for a guy in a grass skirt.
Hey Leron, thanks for that comment. I couldn’t have put it better.
A good weekend to everybody from me too! Here in Germany the seemingly endless rain has finally stopped and I’m looking forward to a great summer day. I wish everybody a mood as good as mine right now :-)
Well said, leron.
One thing is, Amanda screwed herself. It is clear to anyone paying attention that RB wanted Amanda to stay, but Amanda felt she was too big for RB. She also tried hard to bash RB on her way out. If you look at her shows now, it is obvious she should of stayed here where the talent and creativity is.
Yes, since you brought it up: Amanda, amongst other things is now shilling for a major chemical company: DuPont. Which made its money the old fashioned way. Manufacturing gunpowder for wars.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=_fDU3JQVrx4
Oh yeah! where the heck are you? the limo didn\’t pick me up & this suitcase is heavy!
leron friend, you\’re a master with words….did they really do that to Amanda though? there\’s gotta be a couple sides to that one ey?
full disclosure: Amanda’s a friend.
damn, kam, i’m only a state or two off….
Gee, I just thought the whole week was wonderfully creative in a way that only RB can pull off. I watch RB because you look at things from a different angle, and sometimes you don’t look at it from any angle, you just show what is going on. Joanne did not even say a word, but obviously screamed out volumes according to the comments!
The train station was awesome! I had to chuckle when we saw those men in the chopper were being all self-important, and Joanne was working the air vent. Now, that is a comment if I ever saw one!
RB ROCKS!
I agree with most things that Leron said. I didn’t comment all week just because I knew it would get ugly.
I just think rocketboom shouldn’t tackle the political topics. Especially not those who are as sensitive and complicated as the Palestinian problem is. This conflict has been around ever since the Brits left and there are victims on both sides. The mistake that you made is that you only showed one side. In the previous episode you said wether or not it was wrong to do that. I think it is, through RB you have influence and power with that comes responsability which you rid yourself of too easily this week. Hope this never happens again. As a history student I was shocked by this weeks episodes and the comments. (my apologies for my bad English but hey I’m only Belgian ^ ^)
Hope my faith in this daily will be restored soon.
No one is ever satisfied no matter where you go. It’s almost like people feel a need or think they have the right to complain about everything.
But,hey in a way we did show the otherside, the same way the otherside shows itself. What would you call the “Farfur” episodes? I don’t think JoCo could have done any better than those un-edited pure examples of children’s TV. I just found it odd that nobody wanted to see that.
i just wanted to say thanks..
for entertainment in the form of insight.
for the twitter feeds.
and for making the video iPhone friendly.
Happy 248th broadcast RB!!!. Thank you for sharing Israels beauity. Big fan of RB but id love for something new, ( could just be my A.D.D.) Anyways, i was watching todays episode when it hit me… Is it possible that because of 9\11 the idea of a flying car is dead? I mean would any government, in todays world, allow civilians access to air space… My childhood dream is gone. =(
rb certainly seems to be on an inevitable downward slope. there will be blips here and there, but the end is nigh, methinks.
I give this ep a gold star.
What a wonderful weaving of music & video.
Enough cuts, pans & angles to keep the mind gobbling up all that info from black & white stripes to the most awesome skylight I ever saw, the sun indoors!
I had a great time pausing the video so I could really check stuff out, look & absorb everything from art to architecture, all the cool things hanging everywhere when you went through the market place, just great! (hope you remembered to p/u my mandolin)
As you passed the cloister thing in the church with the priest/monk Nostradamus looking guy in black with all the candles & incense urns hanging, it stopped me, I wondered if that was his entire world, if he spent most of his day in there. Same with the shot of the monk in his room with his stepladder.
This is one for the bookmark & I can’t wait for Joanne to be back at her desk telling it like it is, was or could be.
I was thinking about this week & all the bru ha ha in the comments & if I should say something but I’m not real good at that & my opinion don’t mean squat anyway & a wise person told me once “those who say do not know & those who know do not say” & I’m saying I don’t know, which really means, I do know what I’m saying.
I will say I’m a dyed in the wool RB’er & a great part of that is because of you people who leave comments. We’re a big family here, basically we get along & there’ll always be someone in your family you don’t see eye to eye with. leron hit it on the head “respect”
later people & have a safe weekend
Can\’t get no respect!
B-man, your posts overfloweth ! … again. We should re-read the past week, and we should think about this \”respect\” thing.
~gman
classic…\”I smoked half a joint, I got so hungry I ate the other half\” fff\’ingffunny
here\’s some respect thing to think about:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xALiBgzPzE
I like this one. No finger-pointing or blaming, and just pictures of beauty. Thanks, I like this episode, best of the week.
love the music~!