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You forgot to ask him why:
Congress is a Brothel
Corporations Are Johns
Lobbyists are Pimps
Great beginning at using this technology to futher the ever-unfolding experiment of democracy. It will be interesting to see if this increases open dialogue and creative action or continues the same old hide and seek of power hungry politicians.
“APERRANCE”???? LEARN TO SPELL! Geeee-zus!
Can someone tell me what advantage or improvement this brings to the political process? Communicating through an avatar is supposed to accomplish what? Allow politicians to be more accessible? More honest, straightforward, or accountable? You’ve got to be kidding.
A well defined objective or goal for implementing the virtual mode into Rocketboom should be discussed. Where is the audience going, and what is intended to be accomplished by employing virtual presentations? Perhaps Rocketboom is testing the waters, to try things …, to see what happens.I was saving this thought for a later time though Rocketboom needs purpose of a proportion that will set it apart from other vlogs. Imagine Joanne, for some reason on some future Rocketboom episode becomes so passionate about the topic of the day that she acts on screen worthy of an Oscar for her performance. Imagine Joanne speaking in front of the Rocketboom audience one day and saying the memorable lines of Virginia McKenna, “… they were Born Free …, and they have the right to live free!” The lion cubs were growing too large, and they must be brought to live the rest of their lives inside some zoo. Maybe watch the movie to understand what I’m saying.Rocketboom needs to define an objective for itself, to knock the socks off the competition. Political coverages …? I don’t know.
Nice “bling” glasses…I’m sorry I missed this.
And who were the bums sleeping in the first row?
The combination of Second Life and political life is a great idea. It does not, however, stop politicians from avoiding serious questions and thinking on their feet. Just fly away… a politicians PR dream.
I really don’t get it. There’s a thing out there that has existed for close to a century, called RADIO. Callers call in, talk to the guest, ask questions and we don’t have to look at stupid looking avatars.
How does 2nd life provide an advantage of interaction???…can thousands of people ask questions at the same time? Doesn’t seem possible as only ONE question can be ANSWERED at a time….avatar or not. So I see no advantage over a radio talk show and the use of another dinosaur called the telephone.
The incident happened sometime during the ’60’s. One person wrote his congressman, and with that one postal letter eventually to start the political gears turning which banned all cigarette and liquor advertisement from television. Maybe I’m not keeping track though there are very few incidents like this happening in politics.Call me a cynic. Politicians make laws and spend money, those and only those two functions are all their job involves. I heard once ten thousand new laws are created every year between the fifty States and Washington, though most of these laws I imagine to be spending and appropriation bills mandating future spendings. Once a group of politicians go behind closed doors, the only thing that matters is who gets some of those trillions of dollars collected and then to be divvied up every year. If you are not intimate with these politicians behind closed doors, you will get nothing. There is no more important thought in the mind of a group of politicians, in times of calm, then the decision for whom and how to get those tax dollars to your “friends.” And given only two, four or six years for a politician to work with, everything else is a distraction. What’s more important?This mindset may not be part of the political novice, the idealism of a new Mr. Smith elected to Washington. Politics is working with people, and Mr. Smith soon has to mingle inside a group. Always the conversation and thought has to be the huge pork barrel. I mean, what is actually going on in the world that is so important to most people’s day to day life that needs a political solution to render it “better?” With trillions of dollars to spend does anyone think politicians sit around twelve hours a day thinking how to make the world utopic? I exlude Mr. “Mayor” Mike Bloomberg in that last sentence. But wealthy politicians are another footnote to this speil. I’m leaving out other things to consider too, though …Wow. Peoples enthusiasm for politics is incredible sometimes, and I think if only they realized human nature.
Bonsoir,
we have to remember that the most interactive action which we can find, is a handshake and not a chat on the net or on the ( mercantilist? ) second life site.
By the stakes treated at the level of the governorship of a country, as well as the management of his international relations, I believe that it is realistic to classify this type of initiative like an anecdote.
The politics, from Aristotle to now, in was always impacted, still for a ( long ) moment.
The future concerning the human relations, must always integrate a major human aspect, technology being able to play a part of catalystor in this context.
My sensitivity and my actual positioning make me think that, if that were not any more the case, the world would start to lose of its humanity and would be directed towards a nonsaving way.
S.
> Make smarter voters.
I don’t think so. We do not change nature like that, especially on this type of scale.
In France, we are more like this :
Power to do rather than power over. “I’m in charge (you’re not)†was the traditional management attitude. Managers with this attitude talk about empowerment but their focus is on their power over others “Power to do†is the capacity to actually create, envision, lead, mobilize and achieve. That’s the real power, it comes from the inside, it has to be grown.
The citizens are in the middle of the change management.
By this way, we can maximise value to all. Organisational projects should contribute value to all stakeholders and to society at large. Living up to this ideal presents interesting opportunities and long term benefits. With this in mind, obstacles and resistance are lessened. Wastage of resources is reduced. Creativity is enhanced.
S.
> My main beef is that
> corporations can contribute in
> the first place. Corporations
> have more rights and
> protections than actual
> citizens do.
That can be interesting in certain fields, like research. I believe that you adopt this system in the USA and you have a lead over this point.
On the other hand, in the social field, that is connected with more privileging the system that the actor in the system, on which we must focus ourselves to create the added value.
The system before the actor in the system, it is always and still (too much) of capitalism => debt. (Joanne, Drew spoke about it).
S.
I had to laugh. One of the owners in the group that owns the land on which this virtual congress sits is listed as Atta Turk. Coincidence? Or signal that we too will separate church and state and become a secular country? ;)
I’ll be very excited to see Congressman Miller’s next foray into real-time virtual interaction with his constituents, as he leads a raiding party of Orcs and Trolls against the hated Alliance in World of WarCraft.
Steph in Paris,
Have you taken a Super Speed Learning Pill? Your English today is impeccable as is the sentence structure and grammar compared to all your previous posts. Did you find an English speaking girlfriend or what?
Sorry, but the change in your writing style is way too dramatic. Is some political pundit using your nic ???
Just curious that’s all.
Good points Nab, Leron and a few others…don’t see what the fuss is all about with 2nd life and politics. Unfortunately money talks bigtime in US politics…it’s a sad sorry fact that needs to be addressed…or Barbra Streisand or Babawa Walters will be our next President…somewhere over the rainbow…
> Steph in Paris,
>
> Have you taken a Super Speed
> Learning Pill?
>
B-man,
I evoked my positioning here.
I would just say to you that
it is possible to think the interview
with JE. could be considered as a search
for a balance with what it is in France.
So, Politics should be my domain.
S.
Steph back to normal today?
How can you write English so well with regards to politics and here … today’s post…well…go find your girlfriend….quick!!! Buy her some roses!
Steph back to normal today?
How can you write English so well with regards to politics and here … today’s post…well…go find your girlfriend….quick!!! Buy her some roses!
Ce n’est pas possible!!!!
omg second life is soooo cool but its really hard to control! thats a cool idea to film an episode in second life, great episode!
whcookingshow.com
> Buy her some roses!
She has some already. It is the symbol of the Party.
http://www.desirsdavenir.org/
You know now with whom JE. wanted to find
a balance and a synergy, with the brilliant
mediation of Joanne and Drew, via the very
influential ( more and more :) site :
Rocketboom.
S.
P.S
—
if you still wondered who was this Woman,
in 4 months, she should be only the next
French President.
Excuse me to feed your obviously perturbing frustration. I conceive that it is rather hard
to live with daily. Through your posts, it is
perceptible like omnipresent. ( strong neurosis ?)
Everyone is really taking a play world way too seriously. Second Life is inflated numbers and unjustified web hype.
I second the point about radio call in shows – it’s spot on.
@Drew: Sometimes it’s not what the main stream news is reporting on, but what they are not.
I believe that a good vlog is a stronger ‘net avatar.
Oh, I’m glad the interview with congressman george miller was free of flying penis. Others (Anshe Chung/CNet) haven’t been so lucky…
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5387867190768022577&sourceid=docidfeed&hl=en
New York City Mayor Bloomberg, and New York State Governor Spitzer, both wealthy and involved in politics. What brings these two individuals to my attention is the notion that they have a personal agenda for things they want to accomplish. John F. Kennedy, Richard Nixon, Ronald Reagan are three others who stood out in my life as similar types of politicians with a personal agenda of their own, and all these people are or were involved in politics in the hopes of accomplishing their own personal objectives. I contrast these five with the hordes of other politicians who portray themselves as the type who have no plan to implement in their political life, or an objective to strive for as they go through their daily political motions. The majority of politicians are not out to do or accomplish anything altruistic or utopic in nature, doing so because of a heart felt concern and benevolence for society as a whole– you know, to rectify or clarify what’s right from what’s wrong in the world, as they see it. No, the majority of politicians want to get something for themselves as they involve themselves in a day to day world of politics, and only grapple onto “causes” such as the state of the environment, or health care, or whether the war in Iraq is right or wrong, using these causes as stepping stones, or the poker chips of influence, and votes. Many politicians talk about the issues, and it seems they have no sincere and personal convictions to the words they speak.For instance, as far as I’m concerned, my personal take on the war on Iraq is, we were shot in the stomach (only luck was responsible for that Pennsylvania plane to not slam into the White House too,) and we survived this gunshot wound. But it seems only some of US are able to actually identify to know who was responsible for shooting US; to then realize what steps must be taken for the prevention of another incident. I agree that to bring down those responsible for any similar future acts of that sort will probably take at least twenty, thirty years. My own, and I’m sure those in the Pentagon (those in the Pentagon who will never, ever forget who did what on September 11th) have their cross-hairs on Islamic leaders who act “disrespectfully.” The details of the strategy don’t have to be detailed other than for one to realize that Saddam and Iraq, and Afghanistan, are only two of the five nations that need “rehabilitating” in that region. One of the tools for their rehabilitation is our military, … there are other tools in play behind the scenes. Words of cowardice by politicians, and talk of extricating ourselves from direct and forceful involvement with the people in that region will only invite another future and more horrific event to happen. Iranian Islamic leaders want nuclear material because they hate the influence of the West on their people. They despise McDonalds and Kentucky Fried Chicken, and denim jeans on a female is an invitation for the bull whip to her bare back, because it’s their, and Allah’s “law” to do so. As far as I’m concerned the entire Islamic religion is idiotic. Imagine God doesn’t “hear” and understand my own very personal thoughts at any given moment, or anyone’s thoughts at any given moment? No, Islamics say you have to stick your butt in the air five times a day when you want to talk to IT. If one were to consider the omniscience of God and their ritual practice of prayer five times a day, putting both in perspective, the best word to describe the thoughts that generate their behavior is idiotic thought. Islamic thought and rituals brings a person to realize a definition for the Creator of the universe? What a crock of bull. But I digress.How should a politician today talk to influence the spending of some tax dollars to their friends by thinking war thoughts like this? Most politicians cannot be bothered. Their thoughts are on how to sneak the wording of their own personal spending appropriation clause inside the bill they and most everyone has agreed to vote “yes” on, and is sure to pass as the next “law” during the next voting session.Call me a cynic but what is more important to the individual politician: the war in Iraq or your friends quality of life?Stripping away the cloak of benevolence and idealism many people have towards our political process now entering the twenty-first century, revealing the mechanics and the nuts & bolts of what politics is all about in reality, a question is what have Western Republican democratic institutions evolved into over the last two centuries? And I’ll leave that thought for the good people at Rocketboom to ponder. Two hours of writing and editing this post …? TWO HOURS!?… and I gotta go do something else now.
Nicely done, Rocketboom! Here’s my take on the event.
Also New World Notes and Business Communicators of SL have some interesting commentary.
Cheers, Rik Panganiban / Rik Riel in Second Life
I heard about Second Life when Radio 1 played a One Big Weekend there and certainly found it an interesting concept. Can’t see it being taken anything like as seriously by British politicians. In fact I’d go as far as to say that any politician going in there and conducting intervhews would definitely become an instant laughing stock.
And another numpty falls for the all Muslims are untermensch bollocks, believing the lies told to them about how the mentalist minority speak for an entire community. I thought rb viewers had more sense.
EreIAmJH has never seen the children after being scalped by American Indians, so history will repeat itself with US and the Islamics.But wait, I might have to take that back …, maybe if the Anger among Iran’s Arabs actually causes a turn of events which throws the dinosauric Islamic government bums out of power, perhaps George Bush et al., won’t have to use bombs and bullets, and will in the end, in a roundabout way, be vindicated. Any small success of GW would upset the mindset of EreIAmJH? Maybe cross your fingers behind your back, knowing that Arabs will become smart, and wise in thought and deed after all. I’m with ‘ya, and hope so too, EreIAmJH. Good night.
EreIAmJH has never seen the children after being scalped by American Indians, so history will repeat itself with US and the Islamics.But wait, I might have to take that back …, maybe if the Anger among Iran’s Arabs actually causes a turn of events which throws the dinosauric Islamic government bums out of power, perhaps George Bush et al., won’t have to use bombs and bullets, and will in the end, in a roundabout way, be vindicated. Any small success of GW would upset the mindset of EreIAmJH? Maybe cross your fingers behind your back, knowing that Arabs will become smart, and wise in thought and deed after all. I’m with ‘ya, and hope so too, EreIAmJH. Good night.
I really wonder about SL. I mean, why would any politicians feel safe and comfortable in an environment where the Spindoctors can’t control the message and the debate? They spend millions of dollars to control the message and maintain two-party control, but now some of them are giving all that up? I don’t buy it. I bet they know something about SL that we don’t.
And at what point will civil liberties be restricted in SL, just as they have been in real life?