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The really interesting space science is being done by robotic probes, such as the ones that have uncovered evidence of water on Marts.
NASA’s planned Moon base, like the ISS, will generate minimal scientific returns for enoromous financial outlays.
I think they found some water on Mars as well as Martz.
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the Lexus LS460 can parallel park itself…http://blogs.cars.com/kickingtires/2006/09/ls_460_parking.html
and can anyone tell the name/artist of the first tune on…. Make a Little Move On the Dancefloor i cant find anything?
Thanks,
I like your new haircut!
Water on Mars, yes, but it’s
a leak and Martian authorities have said it will be under control within the coming weeks. They apologise to all consumers who had their domestic supply interrupted and have promised that anyone from Earth landing on Mars will be liable to
a landing and takeoff tax that should offset the loss to shareholders in unbillable spilled assets.
Have a good week Y’all.
http://www.crudeawakening.org
Dear Santa, please give me a parallel parking device for Christmas.
Why did Joanne lose her her last name? Did she finally realize that the strawberry shaped birthmark on her left knee proves that she is really a princess who was smuggled out of the country as a child and that the Colans took her in and gave her their name to protect her from anti-royalist evil do-ers in whatever far off exotic country it was where she was born?
Thom and Drew — I said that the really interesting space science is done by robotic probes. I never said that “the money NASA spends does nothing for mankind.”
The so-called “spin-off” technology (Teflon, Velcro and ceramics are usually mentioned) often turns out not to have been invented for the space program when such claims are closely examined. And frankly, some of the things you claim “came as a result of NASA’s scientific research” are just bizarre. Transistors, computers, TV and radio all existed well before NASA.
Not only does the presence of human beings seldom add any value to the science of a mission, most of the time the presence of human beings actually makes it harder to do the real science. Human beings and the equipment needed to support them cause vibration and bring dirt, fluids, and humidity that has to be kept away from the science packages. The need to provide food, water, oxygen, and radiation protection for a human crew enormously compounds the expense of any mission.
The benefit to science of the space shuttle and the international space station is not zero, but science would realize a far greater boon if the same investment was spent on a robotic survey of the solar system, additional robotic telescopes like the Hubble, and development of new technologies that will permit human beings to reach space at a cost that is consistent with our other national priorities.
As for the argument that money spent on human space flight is better spent than money on bombs for the war in Iraq — what if it is? One enormous waste of money doesn’t make another enormous waste of money better for the budget.
Jimster — I agree. So instead of squandering NASA’s budget on human spaceflight missions that never get more than a couple of hundred miles above Earth, let’s spend the money to develop new technology that can take human beings to the planets at a reasonable cost in blood and treasure.
Hi Joanne,
I had some Poppycock at my mom’s yesterday, yummy.
try it.
http://www.lincolnsnacks.com/poppycock/index.asp
–Steve
Bonsoir,
> Now all we need is for Bush to
> declare war on the Martians in
> order to justify sending a
> fleet out there to get a
> handle on it!
:)
Seriously, there is an aspect which the technicians did not solve yet for the travel of long duration in space:
The prolonged exposure of the astronauts to the cosmic radiations.
They have for the moment some beginnings of solutions, like surrounding the ship with a giant magnetic ring to deviate the rays, but there is here the problem of the energy source…
Therefore, the invasion of Mars is not for tomorrow…
S.
Water on Mars, that story is only 8 years old!!! And what kind of liquid did you think it was Joanne…sperm? Pee?
Here’s a little tidbit
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAX_YMFcXDs
Zappa Dweezil - Hendrix’s Guitar
They’ve learned more about our universe from the Hubble telescope than any rat/mice/eggo experiments on that useless tin can of a space station. The only reason the shuttle was bulit was an excuse to fly to the space station. Every experiment done there could have been done on Earth. We create vaccum environment and g-force gravity centers….
They should have built a base on the moon 30 years ago…
Unless of course….
conspiracy.
Nice hair today, Joanne. You’re looking more and more like that famous British actress every day. You know, the one in that movie… you know, with the devil woman and the Jewish guy… What’s her name? Anyway…
Second Life is overrated. Gogi berries are good!
Water -liquid water- on Mars, that’s very exciting for the following reasons and depressing too.
First and foremost, if real, this discovery breaks the taboo of liquid water being an Earthly delight.
In the last 20 years, we found planetary systems other than the solar system, now liquid water outside Earth… it would be like an Australian discovering there are other continents aside from Australia and then finding one, say Asia, has a fertile soil too.
I wouldn’t be surprised if we finaly found life/(in the form of a virus?) on Mars. Though it seems possible that some other key ingredient(s) are missing for life.
The conendrum is why didn’t life develop there like on Earth: after all we find bacterium in the core of nuclear power plants of all places!
Then again there’s water in the core of nuclear reactors…
Still, when was last time you got some good news from NASA?
There are some but’s, however.
The first but is that the crater change/channel/ridge could have been produced by another liquid, namely CO2. In fact, the most recent studies regarding the formation scenarios of channels on Mars strongly suggest they were carved by erosion from liquid CO2.
The second but is that all things considered, almost all the water on Mars is frozen at the poles or in permafrost.
In fact, we still haven’t found non-controversial evidence of Life on Mars. The only evidence is shrouded in controvesy and comes from… well, yes: NASA. Which brings me to the following but.
The third but is a sad comment on the state of science and/or NASA: yet again, another scientific discovery is published on CNN before it is published in a scientific review. This means it will be carried by the momentum of popularity yet scientific theories should not be selected by a popularity contest. The announcement will appear as a refereed paper in a reputable scientific journal (Science). Yet anyone, such as yours truly, who has published refeered papers and acted as a referee knows that in the world of scientific publishing, at least in astronomy & astrophysics, decisions are made based on the principle known as: you scratch my back and I’ll scratch yours.
Namely, the experts -whether authors or referees- are dogpaddling in the same pool of ideas: they go the same conferences and, yes, they might be the ones judging your grant application next cycle around. Rejecting a paper is much more difficult than accepting one -by far! That is why it is important to be refereed and to be exposed to the broader forum of your peers: that is, other scientists not incestuous to your field of specialty who will read and comment (as I am) on other scientists’ announcements.
Einstein once wrote that there is no better forum than that of your peers. It saddens me that NASA scientists think themselves above the scientific process and do not submit their finding to the forum of their peers first before marketing their claims. This said, I am rooting for them inspite of this shortcoming because science today is being assaulted by Creationists and an entertainment industry that dumbs down every shred of creativity. Good luck NASA!
B-man :
I think that the way you expressed yourself on this forum today is UNACCEPTABLE.
An advice : disconnect what has been electrifying your brain for few days.
You make a fixing and it is not good at all.
Thx,
S.
hi,joanne
I thing also the water coming after ice-day and they are elements build behing 2/3 world know it.CAN you hearthly Amanda,please?
A…
ps:interesting!!!
Steph what is the problem?
I think I expressed myself mars-velously.
If there is water on Mars, there is most likely life there as well, and life procreates, multiplies and leaves all sorts of bodily fluids. Granted of the martian kind.
I gather that was the post you are referring to?? Why not ask Joanne yourself what she was so slyly insinuating?
And frankly my dear to quote from “Gone with The Wind” I really don’t give a damn.
Doesn’t seem Nab had a problem with my post.
Name of Song: public domain music: beep-beep, why do stars twinkle from space songs.
Not the best choice of music today. You almost expected to see the yellow dress and the Ugly Betty glasses again. At least there wasn’t any lip synching. Best put that puppy to rest.
B-man :
Personally, I do not have anything to make owing to the fact that Nab thinks like this or like that. If Nab jumps of the bridge, you will not give him the hand.
My current positioning enables me to understand the psy mechanism which animates your current attitude.
You seek me, you will find me.
For a few days, you have decorated us of a nascissic attitude. This one is in general the reflection of a lack of recognition or affection. Can be that the environment in which you currently evolve generates this fact. I know it.
At all events, this lack involves emotions, about fear, being able to be accompanied by a frustration translated by anger (it is the case for you).
What occurs ? Either you keep his emotions or you express by projecting it on a subject.
According to what I can observe, Joanne seems to be at present the subject in question.
Here in detail, the explanation which makes me think that your remark is unacceptable (and in the content, unhealthy).
S.
The United States of America may someday add another star to the fifty already there on the left quadrant of ‘Ole Glory, though I propose, in the spirit of Betsy Ross, that the United States create an entirely new design for a second flag, to fly alongside the Stars and Stripes and to signify to the world the fact that we, the United States of America claim as its possession the entire lunar surface sphere.Hear! Hear!!I have done little personal research into the subject but what I have gleaned is that to make the above claim of possession the United States must set up a colony of some kind, the colony to be inhabitated for a period of time and in this manner to establish legitimacy in an internationally recognized legal capacity. We can’t just plant the flag there, leave and to never return for hundreds of years, all the while making pompous claims of possession of the moon too. I am not familiar with the legal language so I can’t use it here now in this post but I think anyone can realize that in the year 2006, the USA doesn’t really own it what’s the word I want to use…? we don’t own it legitimately, but once we establish a colony of scientists there for example, then and only then will the claim of ownership have …? legitimacy in the eyes of everyone else.And by ownership all I’m saying is that Western governance will preside over the rules of conduct between one person or another. There will never be, for example, an asinine Sharia Law of the land there prescribing how people have to act on a daily basis. What a kick in the balls it’ll be once the Islamic mullahs and Imams hear what I have in mind for them, once I get their silly ears listening to me. I’ll start World War III faster than you can say supercalifragilisticexpialidocious. I mean, how cool it will be if when I ever decide and happen to marry someone like Joanne, I will definitely want my wedding ceremony to be performed on the surface of OUR moon. Totally cool!Whoaa …! Wait a minute …, what exactly did I say there …?!! What I meant to say was IF, and that’s a big IF, if I ever decide or happen to …, not when or …â€â€I’d better git while the gittin is good.Legal eagles could say it better than me but the first established lunar colony sets precedence for any future legitamacy of ownership, and then any future legislation that will follow.
Wow, I have my own personal shrink here on RB and all the way from Paris.
So Steph, where do I send the check or was the first session free?
ALL,
this video link (TERRA PODCAST) has the full case for NASA’s search for life on mars:
http://www.lifeonterra.com/episode.php?id=45
. . . looks like Marvin might exist after all.