Agree with MattO: I never heard about Firefox, and if you are not a computer geek, or if you are not surrounded by people who know about that (like the majority of internet users) … well, you use Internet Explorer.
Thanks for the news RB. I will try it.
btw: however, I learned somewhat quickly how to change my homepage and not land on msn webpage :) My case is not desperate I guess …
The thing I love about this report is how many people who obviously would have rushed past and ignored Amanda stopped to answer the question about a browser. (Firefox myself here. Love the tabbed browsing)
I tried Firefox on my last computer, and it worked great except it wouldn’t let me make a second account for my wife. I can find my way around new programs pretty well, but she’s not that good at it, so I have to keep things relatively simple. I may try it again soon, though, now that more sites support it.
The old guy at the end of the video who talks about NYU is the one and only Tom Mangravite, who shot all the New York footage in the classic 1983 Catherine Deneuve flick, “The Hunger.” Tom is good. So is Firefox.
he he … installed firefox … far better than IE indeed …
I just find one drawback in my long firefox experience of 32 minutes: when I want to write an email with my hotmail account, my Favorites Contacts box is just a mess … I’ll still use IE for hotmail thus … unless someone knows how to fix that ??
I find it interesting that people have trouble explaining exactly _why_ they like firefox better. Tabbed browsing, feature, okay.. More secure, relatively, okay..
I think the biggest thing I like about Firefox more is the consistency of the application. It feels to me that everything works like it _should_. Managing bookmarks in IE is quite painful. The extensions are quite nice, also.
Okay, I’m just as guilty, listing features. And my family uses it because I told them to, also. :)
To Ron who asked: “when I want to write an email with my hotmail account, my Favorites Contacts box is just a mess … I’ll still use IE for hotmail thus … unless someone knows how to fix that ??”
My brother-in-law, who lives in Seattle, is a huge Firefox fan as is most of his fellow Seattle-ites, he tells me. He installed it on our computer but out of habbit we just go to IE.
The irony here is that all of the exploits found in IE only make it a BETTER BROWSER. This might not be apparent right now but if FireFox started pulling in 40-50% market share, you would see how many holes the hacker community can find in that browser.
This isn’t an IE/Firefox issue. I guarantee that both dev teams release exploitable browsers but until FF’s market share goes up, it wont get hacked.
BTW: You should go ask that question at the MS campus in redmond because it’s the equivalent to asking the same question at a university in favor of firefox.
actually, I use Yahoo … and I have an account in caramail too … lot of friends all over the world … many of them addicted to internet and sending heavy stuff.
I know that it’s dumb to make a request here, but if you could, do the same survey somewhere else, like central station or have one of your affiliates run the survey in another state. I would love to look at this from another perspective.
Firefox all the way for me, too. BTW, the first browser I ever used was Netscape 1.0 in 1995. I can’t stand IE because of the security risks, the Java scripting errors, and the lack of RSS support.
I also use Safari too at times, although I like Firefox with the customizable themes and extensions. Firefox rules!
This was a grand opportunity for nerds to finally get to talk to a pretty girl about computers and many just walked on by! Pathetic.
C’mon guys, the odds of finding a lady that looks like Amanda, intelligent, funny and is interested in technology approaches the same probability as the moon getting ripped from earth orbit after you’ve won the lottery and have been struck by lightening all in the same day! Drew, hope you’re genuflecting. Tell her how lucky you are.
Here’s my two cents of nerdyness…Firefox, if for nothing else, temporary security until the exploiters starting targeting it more ravenously.
moneymoney! firefox. although it has been giving me some issues when i’m myspacing. but that’s probably just god’s way of telling me to stop myspacing…
soo many uninformed empty-heads… “security! tabbed browsing!!!” theyre like parrots, heard those words and they repeat them. firefox is a piece. security is only an issue for pedophiles, and criminals. windows has tabbed browsing by default, its called the taskbar..
Great segment. I liked the guy who was trying to make some kind of business argument for why he uses Internet Explorer, but ended up with a bunch of nonsense (”Just a name…I would think on a brand name basis the internet word would familiarize me with it because I understand it”). Also the “Fox on Fire” guy was hilarious.
Firefox. Because it’s a fox on fire… wait, no, I mean, for the extensions.
P.S. I didn’t realize what the deal about tabbed browsing was for until I started using middle-click to open things in the background, so I could get to them later.
I spend some of my time helping in a small German Linux / Unix User Group. Doing workshops on open source software, writing a few bits of open source code etc.
I always love to see “regular” people using Open Source Software. I don’t care if the that survey is exact or accurate. Every single person that uses some Open Source Software makes me happy. This may sound stupid, but that’s just the way I feel about it.
I can remember the time when non-nerdy people would respond to the question “Do you use Mozilla or IE?” with “What the hell is Mozilla?” .
Stuff like your vlog remembers me to the fact that the time I spend on OSS foo is not wasted.
it’s unfortunate how everyone says their favorite part of firefox is tabbed browsing, i used opera for years, and it had tabbed browsing, and a LOT of other awesome features, some that firefox still hasn’t got, but i still use firefox simply because of the robust extensions. i’m sure half the firefox users, if not more, are as aware of extensions as that majority of IE users that don’t know they can change their homepage, and it’s sad, because that’s an OUTSTANDING feature, hell, you can even get a multi-player PONG extension, i sit and play pong with a buddy while i watch RB every morning ;)
so here is to those that don’t know about extensions: https://addons.mozilla.org/
I use Safari. Firefox would be my close second choice.
As far as my love affair with Safari… I like all the Mac intergration, the interface, RSS support, customization and the overall speed and compatibility.
Internet Explorer is all boated, ugly and has all sorts of preferences that simply exist to annoy and interrupt your workflow (just like MS Office). Did I mention that Microsoft recently changed Explorer so that if you load the default webpage of http://www.msn.com, Explorer crashes on Mac? Real quality, Mr. Gates. Bravo.
Tabbed browsing is not really a big deal, but for the record, it’s been on Safari since day one!
Also, everyone kept talking about safety. Huh? I’ve been online for over a decade and internet safety never has entered my mind. Must be a New York terrorist fear thing. Or perhaps a PC virus user fear thing. Whatever. It must be rough to know deep down that you paid to have all that hassle and fear. It’s like paying $300 for sex with a frigid AIDS whore with a yeast infection. Have fun suckers.
The best thing about Safari, Firefox, and Opera….? It’s the added psychological benefit of knowing you’re not giving money to a corporation almost as evil as Wal-Mart.
There’s my two one-hundredths of a dollar.
Feel free to disagree, but I have my fingers in my ears and can’t hear you - la la la la la la…
Love it! Loved the answer “I use Firefox because I’m a fox and I’m on fire”. SUPERB
There’s only one reason required NOT to use Internet Explorer in my eyes. It lets viruses onto your computer. My sister-in-law recently had her computer destroyed by a virus let in by IE.
If you haven’t tried Firefox yet, just give it a go, you might like it!!
SHIFT + F10 Opens a shortcut menu for the selected item (this is the same as right-clicking an object
CTRL + ESC: Opens the Start menu (use the ARROW keys to select an item)
CTRL + ESC or ESC: Selects the Start button (press TAB to select the taskbar, or press SHIFT + F10 for a context menu)
ALT + DOWN ARROW: Opens a drop-down list box
ALT + TAB: Switch to another running program (hold down the ALT key and then press the TAB key to view the task-switching window)
SHIFT: Press and hold down the SHIFT key while you insert a CD-ROM to bypass the automatic-run feature
ALT + SPACE: Displays the main window’s System menu (from the System menu, you can restore, move, resize, minimize, maximize, or close the window)
ALT + - (ALT + hyphen): Displays the Multiple Document Interface (MDI) child window’s System menu (from the MDI child window’s System menu, you can restore, move, resize, minimize, maximize, or close the child window)
CTRL + TAB: Switch to the next child window of a Multiple Document Interface (MDI) program
ALT + underlined letter in menu: Opens the menu
ALT + F4: Closes the current window
CTRL + F4: Closes the current Multiple Document Interface (MDI) window
ALT + F6: Switch between multiple windows in the same program (for example, when the Notepad Find dialog box is displayed, ALT + F6 switches between the Find dialog box and the main Notepad window)
Windows Logo + D: Minimizes all open windows and displays the desktop
CTRL + Windows Logo + F: Find computer
CTRL + Windows Logo + TAB: Moves focus from Start, to the Quick Launch toolbar, to the system tray (use RIGHT ARROW or LEFT ARROW to move focus to items on the Quick Launch toolbar and the system tray)
Windows Logo + TAB: Cycle through taskbar buttons
Windows Logo + Break: System Properties dialog box
Application key: Displays a shortcut menu for the selected item
SHIFT + TAB: Move to the previous control in the dialog box
SPACEBAR: If the current control is a button, this clicks the button. If the current control is a check box, this toggles the check box. If the current control is an option, this selects the option.
ENTER: Equivalent to clicking the selected button (the button with the outline)
ESC: Equivalent to clicking the Cancel button
ALT + underlined letter in dialog box item: Move to the corresponding item
Here’s a new reason to prefer Firefox: Microsoft is a convicted criminal.
After the conviction, MS donated lots of money to the Bush Campaign in its (correct) belief that Bush would make a generous settlement during the penalty phase of the trial. Noone knows how the 2000 election would have turned out had MS not gotten involved, but I doubt that Bill Gates and Paul Allen believed that Bush would make a better president than Gore. MS donated the money purely to end the browser wars. Now we’ve got a real war. Sleep well, Bill.
I’d be interested to see how many Mac users prefer FF to Safari though, I’d imagine it’s low - if only for the lack of default contextual (right click) functions, such as “Search in Google”, “Search Spelling”, “Search Dictionary” - which are fast and friendly in Safari, but buggy additions in FireFox.
I’d be curious about the outtakes, too. Anyone say “Safari”?
I use Safari for my day-to-day stuff and Firefox for my vloggy activities because it’s compatible with my posting editor while Safari is not. I haven’t made the full switch because it doesn’t seem to want to import all my bookmarks, and it launches really slowly. But I looooves me Firefox extensions!
And before we all geek out over the love for Firefox out there (oh, wait, too late!) let’s remember that this was shot in a super-hip, super-young, super-knowlegable neighborhood in the middle of a college campus. Do it again someplace else and watch the tide turn dramatically.
That being said, I’m out of here like a fox on fire.
Ooops! Amanda’s laugh caused a near-field synaptic loop. The resulting inductance caused a “digital” problem… “Dang finger won’t stop tapping send…feels like when I was a telegraph op……back in the day…”
IE6 is almost five years old so I don’t think it’s surprising that better browser’s have come along in that time. What does surprise me though is that firefox has only been able to grab 9% of the market despite all the negative propaganda that is constantly slung at IE. I think this proves that most people just don’t care that much, they just want something that will allow them to view pages on the web, it doesn’t matter if that browser is IE, firefox, opera, safari or whatever it’s just not important enough for them to change.
I know a lot of people believe firefox is more secure, but if you compare the number of security vulnerabilities discovered in both browsers over the last 12 months you will notice their are just has many vulnerabilities with firefox, even though it has a much smaller share of the market. The difference is firefox vulnerabilities don’t make the headlines they are just conveniently brushed under the carpet. Microsoft have improved IEs security a lot over the last couple of years, but while it has such a large chunk of the browser market it’s always going to be the main target for things like spyware.
Personally I use firefox as my main browser simply because of the tabs and extensions, but that’s about it, overall I don’t think it’s that much better just more up-to-date. It’s not going to take that much for microsoft to get back many of the people who decided to switch to alternative browsers. Next year when IE7 ships with vista I think mozilla are going to have a lot of problems, not only attracting new users but also keeping their existing ones. They are going to have to either come up with some amazing killer feature\s or pull off the mother of all propaganda campaigns, or be left with just the M$ SUX! crew.
Not one of those people mentioned anything about the technical advantages of Firefox over IE (from a developers standpoint). Interesting. Better web standard support is the selling point for me, but then, I’m a web developer and not just a user.
One guy mentioned something about the name. Also interesting. On the computers I’ve set up for my family, I’ve had to rename the Firefox shortcut to “Internet”, just so people would stop sitting down and asking me “how do I get online?”. People have no clude what Firefox is, just by the name or icon. That’s one beef I’ve come to have towards its marketing.
The difference is, Firefox is being made by a HUGE community of coders that want a better product. IE is made by a bunch of people that have been making IE for years and years, they knokw they have and 85%+ market share and don’t really care if they bring in new people. They are just trying to get by and not piss off too many people. They are failing.
I have been using firefox for about 5 months, aside from the very first pdf I tried to view, it has not crashed once.
Those people didn’t say anything about RSS or the fact that I’ve never seen a popup on FF. Never had a dialer try to install.
Now as soon as people realize their are other operating systems besides windows…..
After using Unix in the navy, I haven’t been without at least 1 linux box in the house in 8 years. If it weren’t for windows only programs, Microsoft would not exist in my house.
I used IE for like ever, untill I started watching you. Now I still use it, after my laptop gave me truble. It is so stupid itunes, IE, FF none of them work right. (IE crashes less on my computer)
Interesting that so many of the people who posted on this item questioned the omission of Opera, which is my favorite browser, too. It has most of the features that set Firefox apart from the dreaded IE, and many others besides.
So here’s a challenge to Amanda and the Rockettes: How about a segment on Opera? You could set it to the Duet from the Pearl Fishers with Jussi Björling and Robert Merrill!
Opera?!? Ew. They only jumped on the free browser bandwagon recently because they weren’t able to get anyone to pay for that thing. In my opinion, they blew their opportunity years ago.
As for those that think IE users did not have a good answer, please remember not everyone is a sysadmin or poweruser, so they don’t understand the issues. Talk to them on their level instead of making fun: “J00r Bank Account will get P0wnDD gramma!!”
Did someone just complain about not including Lynx? Haha, c’mon now.
I’m glad Firefox has a pretty good following these days, but your survey was kind of loaded. How much footage did you edit out of people walking by and not answering your question? Those were probably IE users.
I use Firefox for work-related stuff because of the great web developer extensions. Otherwise, I use Shiira (http://hmdt-web.net/shiira/en), this open source browser based on Safari. Honestly, the only reason I use it is because I like the cool page-turn animation you get when going to a new page. Superficial, I know. Haha.
RB: there are some Casual Fridays that are very successfull … this is one of them … just satuday afternoon, and already 102 comments !!! soon you will have more comments about Firefox that for Chad Chesterfield and Co.
If you don’t get paid for this ‘advertising’, anyway you will be able to use those comments in the future to prove ad companies that you must have a place in their campaigns.
A little bit more than 24h of Firefox experience, and no problem til now.
ps: those posts give you a great idea of what’s you audience looks like. Many computer pro [I'm not]… maybe that’s why a foot paddling child or German songs are not that successful …
If you’d ask me, why Firefox, my answer would be. Mouse gestures and tabs. Some people mentioned tabs, but mouse gestures are just as important in delivering a speedy web experience.
If you’re using Firefox and have not checked out mouse gestures, then try that today.
in a way, you’re right: comments are not a good measure of success: some topics are controversial, others not. It doesn’t mean some are found interesting and some not … and doesn’t mean some are more appreciated than others.
Also, I’m curious to know if you keep track of the number of connexions to your website .. well, I already know the answer (from your coverage in live from your internet hosting company)… but I don’t know the numbers ;) Have you experienced a significant (R)boom after the Dutch TV spot?
Thanks for the previous correction. Have a good Sunday you and Drew.
What ?
No Konqueror users ?
Opera has some nifty little gizmos.
I prefer Moz suite’s history over FF.
I really love writing pages & finding they work fine in every browser under the sun EXCEPT Exploder
yeesh
thing about this video: As often happens when consumers get put on the spot by an interviewer, they just say what they think they should say.
you can tell some of the people who say firefox really don’t have an idea of why they prefer it - faster? my dad said I’d get less viruses?
It’s interesting the way that just word of mouth and buzz have generated a real brand for firefox, just like people generally thinking volvos are safe, people think firefox = intelligent choice. I think a lot of people that use it (maybe a friend/family has switched them) won’t even be using the tabs and won’t notice any difference.
just for background, I am only moderately geeky and switched to Ffox a year ago. extensions like mouse gestures and sage are neat, tabs are now indispensible to me, and you get less pop-ups. But I can’t tell it’s faster, and it definitely crashes more often than IE!
I use Opera browser for both scurity and speed over firefox. On the average Opera is about one version ahead of firefox as far as features go. I love the voice command and to have the browser read the pages for me. Together with dragon speak and opera who need a keyboard or mouse. The download is 376/kBs whick means I can get 100 mb files in 3 min … I’m happy. It also has rss,mail,and web all in one.
also it can play divx files
Opera finally has its first scurity update last month yes I said FIRST that is a good track record compaired to firefox (grin)
Hi!!
Ich bin auch ein grosser Fan von FireFox. Ist der beste Browser. Die Tabs sind super, aber vorallem die Extras (Mausgesten,…) sind der Wahnsinn. Open Source ist halt viel besser als alles andere!!
Viele Grüsse an alle anderen Deutschen, die diese Seite anschauen……
Let’s see. No one mentioned extensions, multiple homepages, or proper PNG support. I’m a huge fan of Firefox, and the only time I open IE is when I have to make sure a page looks OK before I send it out into the world.
Best extension evar: Web Developer’s Toolbar.
And my first browser: Lynx. First graphical browser: probably NCSA Mosaic, way back in the day, as the kids say these days.
Many of the people in the interview had no clue as to which browser they really liked. Most just didn’t like Microsoft. While that is understandable, the interviewees didn’t address the browsers. I use both, but I have noticed that Firefox does not handle all websites as well as IE6. Firefox also takes longer to boot, and scrambles the date on my website. I prefer IE.
I can’t believe people argue about what historic technology is better. Someone needs to recreate the way we browse… and tabs just don’t do it. We are using 90’s technology with a new skin and it is sad.
B.S. They are both the same…for me anyway. Firefox tabs are not that big of a difference if it can not access all pages and firefox often fails on me if i switch to another application on my computer. I have to have Firefox open and still and wait for it to load before i move to another application. IE is faster loading and people just want to be puesdo geeks and cool by saying anything but IE. Get a freakin life. How soon will they start to turn on firefox or mac if they start to become the monopolizing conglomerates in their niche. Posers and losers that want to be cool and different. I use both because both function for me and i have no prefence but had to vent at all those who are anti-microsoft .
I can’t believe nobody mentioned mouse gestures! (e.g. All In One Gestures extension.) I can’t live without them. If I show Firefox to colleagues, it’s usually what swings them whole-heartedly over from IE.
Am I the only one who get’s the impression that this video was staged?
Not only do the people in the video look like actors, they even talk like their answers have been scripted.
The standard answer of the IE user was: “I am dumb and was to lazy to try out firefox, even though I know it is cooler” and the variation of the firefox people’s answer was: “I am cool so I use firefox… it’s much safer and faster and the tabs are great…”
Come on?! I haven
‘t heared this much of crap since my last teeth whitener TV ad… normal people would have answered: “What the hell is firefox?” Since most people do not even know it… so this was basicaly what made the advertisement lose it’s realistic touch.
Nobody said anything about the bookmark toolbar! that rules!
Agree with MattO: I never heard about Firefox, and if you are not a computer geek, or if you are not surrounded by people who know about that (like the majority of internet users) … well, you use Internet Explorer.
Thanks for the news RB. I will try it.
btw: however, I learned somewhat quickly how to change my homepage and not land on msn webpage :) My case is not desperate I guess …
The thing I love about this report is how many people who obviously would have rushed past and ignored Amanda stopped to answer the question about a browser. (Firefox myself here. Love the tabbed browsing)
I tried Firefox on my last computer, and it worked great except it wouldn’t let me make a second account for my wife. I can find my way around new programs pretty well, but she’s not that good at it, so I have to keep things relatively simple. I may try it again soon, though, now that more sites support it.
I’d use Internet Explorer…But who cares?
The old guy at the end of the video who talks about NYU is the one and only Tom Mangravite, who shot all the New York footage in the classic 1983 Catherine Deneuve flick, “The Hunger.” Tom is good. So is Firefox.
OPERA
he he … installed firefox … far better than IE indeed …
I just find one drawback in my long firefox experience of 32 minutes: when I want to write an email with my hotmail account, my Favorites Contacts box is just a mess … I’ll still use IE for hotmail thus … unless someone knows how to fix that ??
“because it’s a fox on fire.”
priceless.
First it was Amanda’s cool & crazy glasses, now it’s The Amanda Giggle…
Are you trying to get me addicted to Rocketboom for life? You’re too cool!
Rocketboom
Home of the Amanda Giggle
I find it interesting that people have trouble explaining exactly _why_ they like firefox better. Tabbed browsing, feature, okay.. More secure, relatively, okay..
I think the biggest thing I like about Firefox more is the consistency of the application. It feels to me that everything works like it _should_. Managing bookmarks in IE is quite painful. The extensions are quite nice, also.
Okay, I’m just as guilty, listing features. And my family uses it because I told them to, also. :)
I use Safari. Why is that not as good as Firefox?
To Ron who asked: “when I want to write an email with my hotmail account, my Favorites Contacts box is just a mess … I’ll still use IE for hotmail thus … unless someone knows how to fix that ??”
Use Yahoo Mail?
Call me crazy…
I agree with Pjotr. Come Amanda, you use a Mac, don’t you? Safari rules!
Safari!
Firefox
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YAY!!!
and I HATE Microsoft!!!!!!
If I didn’t invest in all the programs for Windows, I’d switch to Mac…
Nobody talked about the extensions. :|
The vcast was brilliant today. Thanks so much. :)
My brother-in-law, who lives in Seattle, is a huge Firefox fan as is most of his fellow Seattle-ites, he tells me. He installed it on our computer but out of habbit we just go to IE.
The irony here is that all of the exploits found in IE only make it a BETTER BROWSER. This might not be apparent right now but if FireFox started pulling in 40-50% market share, you would see how many holes the hacker community can find in that browser.
This isn’t an IE/Firefox issue. I guarantee that both dev teams release exploitable browsers but until FF’s market share goes up, it wont get hacked.
BTW: You should go ask that question at the MS campus in redmond because it’s the equivalent to asking the same question at a university in favor of firefox.
;) Love ya!~
Um . . . as I am almost part the ‘old fart’ generation, I need help. Can y’all come to my house and spiffy up my PC?
to ZanzibarBuckBuckMcFate:
actually, I use Yahoo … and I have an account in caramail too … lot of friends all over the world … many of them addicted to internet and sending heavy stuff.
:)
I guess I am the only Opera user who watches Rocketboom…
I know that it’s dumb to make a request here, but if you could, do the same survey somewhere else, like central station or have one of your affiliates run the survey in another state. I would love to look at this from another perspective.
firefox or ie? i choose amanda
Jimster. I am on fire and I am a fox. “I am the FireFox and you are my Mozila!”
Mr. JJ Beans
Firefox all the way for me, too. BTW, the first browser I ever used was Netscape 1.0 in 1995. I can’t stand IE because of the security risks, the Java scripting errors, and the lack of RSS support.
I also use Safari too at times, although I like Firefox with the customizable themes and extensions. Firefox rules!
Rocket Boom yeah.
Bravo.
Superb. I feel that I have seen this before, maybe just dj-vu; whatever. I enjoyed this daily vlog.(again t00)
I’m using both firefox & safari browsers simmutaneously. They both exist on my right finder.
Firefox is choice when I fingerclick to Enter the Internet.
all my animal friends browse with firefox!
How is “cache” pronounced?
Great piece. I’d love to see similar video surveys.
This is awesome. Thanks guys, funny and good to see people using Firefox.
This was a grand opportunity for nerds to finally get to talk to a pretty girl about computers and many just walked on by! Pathetic.
C’mon guys, the odds of finding a lady that looks like Amanda, intelligent, funny and is interested in technology approaches the same probability as the moon getting ripped from earth orbit after you’ve won the lottery and have been struck by lightening all in the same day! Drew, hope you’re genuflecting. Tell her how lucky you are.
Here’s my two cents of nerdyness…Firefox, if for nothing else, temporary security until the exploiters starting targeting it more ravenously.
cash.
moneymoney! firefox. although it has been giving me some issues when i’m myspacing. but that’s probably just god’s way of telling me to stop myspacing…
soo many uninformed empty-heads… “security! tabbed browsing!!!” theyre like parrots, heard those words and they repeat them. firefox is a piece. security is only an issue for pedophiles, and criminals. windows has tabbed browsing by default, its called the taskbar..
I almost always use Safari, unless I’m forced to use Explorer or Firefox. Safari has them beat for ease of use, safety, and speed.
And what does Amanda use?
Because it’s a fox on fire… Amazing.
Yes, Dr. Phibes… The bookmark toolbar is teh r0xx0r5.
It was funny because quite a few of the ppl didn’t know what they were talking about.
TeraLink Was Here!
P.S. & I AM a fox on fire.
Great segment. I liked the guy who was trying to make some kind of business argument for why he uses Internet Explorer, but ended up with a bunch of nonsense (”Just a name…I would think on a brand name basis the internet word would familiarize me with it because I understand it”). Also the “Fox on Fire” guy was hilarious.
Firefox. Because it’s a fox on fire… wait, no, I mean, for the extensions.
P.S. I didn’t realize what the deal about tabbed browsing was for until I started using middle-click to open things in the background, so I could get to them later.
Safari.
OK. Nothing specific to say about today’s vlog. Other than I kinda think Safari’s cool.
But Rocketboom? Now that is sooooo cool. My computer now feels fulfilled and happy being able to finally show me this stuff.
I am but a humble blogger without even my own domain name but I do what I can (see http://www3.telus.net/public/jjmyers/Text%20page.htm)
Anyhoo. THANKYOU!
I spend some of my time helping in a small German Linux / Unix User Group. Doing workshops on open source software, writing a few bits of open source code etc.
I always love to see “regular” people using Open Source Software. I don’t care if the that survey is exact or accurate. Every single person that uses some Open Source Software makes me happy. This may sound stupid, but that’s just the way I feel about it.
I can remember the time when non-nerdy people would respond to the question “Do you use Mozilla or IE?” with “What the hell is Mozilla?” .
Stuff like your vlog remembers me to the fact that the time I spend on OSS foo is not wasted.
Thank you! You made my day.
(sorry for my lame english)
I just submitted this story to Digg.com. I felt it was appropriate. You can “digg it” if you like here… http://digg.com/software/Firefox_or_Internet_Explorer_Rocketboom_Interviews_New_Yorkers
WOW! You rock Amanda. That was awesome.
We need to talk.
it’s unfortunate how everyone says their favorite part of firefox is tabbed browsing, i used opera for years, and it had tabbed browsing, and a LOT of other awesome features, some that firefox still hasn’t got, but i still use firefox simply because of the robust extensions. i’m sure half the firefox users, if not more, are as aware of extensions as that majority of IE users that don’t know they can change their homepage, and it’s sad, because that’s an OUTSTANDING feature, hell, you can even get a multi-player PONG extension, i sit and play pong with a buddy while i watch RB every morning ;)
so here is to those that don’t know about extensions: https://addons.mozilla.org/
I’m a huge Firefox fan. Everything about it just appeals to me, with all the extra options you can add on and everything.
Out of curiosity, did anybody realize who you were?
You should have left my dad’s speech about how he’s a Safari user in.
Opera!
Of course I’m posting this in Firefox, but I cannot believe nobody said Opera. Of course it wasent in the question, but I much prefer Opera.
Why wasn’t Opera, Safari or even Lynx asked on this survey!?
I use Safari. Firefox would be my close second choice.
As far as my love affair with Safari… I like all the Mac intergration, the interface, RSS support, customization and the overall speed and compatibility.
Internet Explorer is all boated, ugly and has all sorts of preferences that simply exist to annoy and interrupt your workflow (just like MS Office). Did I mention that Microsoft recently changed Explorer so that if you load the default webpage of http://www.msn.com, Explorer crashes on Mac? Real quality, Mr. Gates. Bravo.
Tabbed browsing is not really a big deal, but for the record, it’s been on Safari since day one!
Also, everyone kept talking about safety. Huh? I’ve been online for over a decade and internet safety never has entered my mind. Must be a New York terrorist fear thing. Or perhaps a PC virus user fear thing. Whatever. It must be rough to know deep down that you paid to have all that hassle and fear. It’s like paying $300 for sex with a frigid AIDS whore with a yeast infection. Have fun suckers.
The best thing about Safari, Firefox, and Opera….? It’s the added psychological benefit of knowing you’re not giving money to a corporation almost as evil as Wal-Mart.
There’s my two one-hundredths of a dollar.
Feel free to disagree, but I have my fingers in my ears and can’t hear you - la la la la la la…
Love it! Loved the answer “I use Firefox because I’m a fox and I’m on fire”. SUPERB
There’s only one reason required NOT to use Internet Explorer in my eyes. It lets viruses onto your computer. My sister-in-law recently had her computer destroyed by a virus let in by IE.
If you haven’t tried Firefox yet, just give it a go, you might like it!!
FIREFOX
because it’s open source
THE INFORMATION IN THIS PROGRAM APPLIES TO:
Microsoft Windows XP
Microsoft Windows Me
Microsoft Windows 98 SE
Microsoft Windows 98
Microsoft Windows 95
86 General Keyboard Shortcuts
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WINDOWS SYSTEM KEY COMBINATIONS:
F1: Help
CTRL + ESC: Open Start menu
ALT + TAB: Switch between open programs
ALT + F4: Quit program
SHIFT + DELETE: Delete item permanently
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WINDOWS PROGRAM KEY COMBINATIONS:
CTRL + C: Copy
CTRL + X: Cut
CTRL + V: Paste
CTRL + Z: Undo
CTRL + B: Bold
CTRL + U: Underline
CTRL + I: Italic
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MOUSE CLICK/KEYBOARD MODIFIER COMBINATIONS FOR SHELL OBJECTS:
SHIFT + right click: Displays a shortcut menu containing alternative commands
SHIFT + double click: Runs the alternate default command (the second item on the menu)
ALT + double click: Displays properties
SHIFT + DELETE: Deletes an item immediately without placing it in the Recycle Bin
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GENERAL KEYBOARD-ONLY COMMANDS:
F1: Starts Windows Help
F10: Activates menu bar options
SHIFT + F10 Opens a shortcut menu for the selected item (this is the same as right-clicking an object
CTRL + ESC: Opens the Start menu (use the ARROW keys to select an item)
CTRL + ESC or ESC: Selects the Start button (press TAB to select the taskbar, or press SHIFT + F10 for a context menu)
ALT + DOWN ARROW: Opens a drop-down list box
ALT + TAB: Switch to another running program (hold down the ALT key and then press the TAB key to view the task-switching window)
SHIFT: Press and hold down the SHIFT key while you insert a CD-ROM to bypass the automatic-run feature
ALT + SPACE: Displays the main window’s System menu (from the System menu, you can restore, move, resize, minimize, maximize, or close the window)
ALT + - (ALT + hyphen): Displays the Multiple Document Interface (MDI) child window’s System menu (from the MDI child window’s System menu, you can restore, move, resize, minimize, maximize, or close the child window)
CTRL + TAB: Switch to the next child window of a Multiple Document Interface (MDI) program
ALT + underlined letter in menu: Opens the menu
ALT + F4: Closes the current window
CTRL + F4: Closes the current Multiple Document Interface (MDI) window
ALT + F6: Switch between multiple windows in the same program (for example, when the Notepad Find dialog box is displayed, ALT + F6 switches between the Find dialog box and the main Notepad window)
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SHELL OBJECTS AND GENERAL FOLDER/WINDOWS EXPLORER SHORTCUTS:
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FOR A SELECTED OBJECT:
F2: Rename object
F3: Find all files
CTRL + X: Cut
CTRL + C: Copy
CTRL + V: Paste
SHIFT + DELETE: Delete selection immediately, without moving the item to the Recycle Bin
ALT + ENTER: Open the properties for the selected object
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TO COPY A FILE:
Press and hold down the CTRL key while you drag the file to another folder.
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TO CREATE A SHORTCUT:
Press and hold down CTRL + SHIFT while you drag a file to the desktop or a folder.
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GENERAL FOLDER/SHORTCUT CONTROL:
F4: Selects the Go To A Different Folder box and moves down the entries in the box (if the toolbar is active in Windows Explorer)
F5: Refreshes the current window.
F6: Moves among panes in Windows Explorer
CTRL + G: Opens the Go To Folder tool (in Windows 95 Windows Explorer only)
CTRL + Z: Undo the last command
CTRL + A: Select all the items in the current window
BACKSPACE: Switch to the parent folder
SHIFT + click + Close button: For folders, close the current folder plus all parent folders
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WINDOWS EXPLORER TREE CONTROL:
Numeric Keypad *: Expands everything under the current selection
Numeric Keypad + : Expands the current selection
Numeric Keypad -: Collapses the current selection.
RIGHT ARROW: Expands the current selection if it is not expanded, otherwise goes to the first child
LEFT ARROW: Collapses the current selection if it is expanded, otherwise goes to the parent
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PROPERTIES CONTROL:
CTRL + TAB/CTRL + SHIFT + TAB: Move through the property tabs
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ACCESSIBILITY SHORTCUTS:
Press SHIFT five times: Toggles StickyKeys on and off
Press down and hold the right SHIFT key for eight seconds: Toggles FilterKeys on and off
Press down and hold the NUM LOCK key for five seconds: Toggles ToggleKeys on and off
Left ALT + left SHIFT + NUM LOCK: Toggles MouseKeys on and off
Left ALT + left SHIFT + PRINT SCREEN: Toggles high contrast on and off
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MICROSOFT NATURAL KEYBOARD KEYS:
Windows Logo: Start menu
Windows Logo + R: Run dialog box
Windows Logo + M: Minimize all
SHIFT + Windows Logo + M: Undo minimize all
Windows Logo + F1: Help
Windows Logo + E: Windows Explorer
Windows Logo + F: Find files or folders
Windows Logo + D: Minimizes all open windows and displays the desktop
CTRL + Windows Logo + F: Find computer
CTRL + Windows Logo + TAB: Moves focus from Start, to the Quick Launch toolbar, to the system tray (use RIGHT ARROW or LEFT ARROW to move focus to items on the Quick Launch toolbar and the system tray)
Windows Logo + TAB: Cycle through taskbar buttons
Windows Logo + Break: System Properties dialog box
Application key: Displays a shortcut menu for the selected item
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MICROSOFT NATURAL KEYBOARD WITH INTELLITYPE SOFTWARE INSTALLED:
Windows Logo + L: Log off Windows
Windows Logo + P: Starts Print Manager
Windows Logo + C: Opens Control Panel
Windows Logo + V: Starts Clipboard
Windows Logo + K: Opens Keyboard Properties dialog box
Windows Logo + I: Opens Mouse Properties dialog box
Windows Logo + A: Starts Accessibility Options (if installed)
Windows Logo + SPACEBAR: Displays the list of Microsoft IntelliType shortcut keys
Windows Logo + S: Toggles CAPS LOCK on and off
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DIALOG BOX KEYBOARD COMMANDS:
TAB: Move to the next control in the dialog box
SHIFT + TAB: Move to the previous control in the dialog box
SPACEBAR: If the current control is a button, this clicks the button. If the current control is a check box, this toggles the check box. If the current control is an option, this selects the option.
ENTER: Equivalent to clicking the selected button (the button with the outline)
ESC: Equivalent to clicking the Cancel button
ALT + underlined letter in dialog box item: Move to the corresponding item
I thought that was so great. Firefox truely does kill IE. I found it quite interesting to hear other people’s opinions also.
This is my preference, Although I support Firefox as king in theory, it surprisingly doesn’t even touch my top two preferences…
Safari 2.0.2(mac)
Internet Explorer 7 beta (PC)
Firefox 1.5 (mac)
Firefox 1.5 (PC)
Internet Explorer 6.5 updated (PC)
Although I haven’t tried Deerpark all that much I am cheering for Firefox 2.0 to overthrow IE7 by its launch next year.
generalized IE user answer:
“I don’t know any better.”
generalized Firefox user answer:
“Beacuse it’s better!”
tabbed browsing is great, especially for porn.
Fire Fox fire fox FIRE FOx FFFFiRe FoX! yeah!
Here’s a new reason to prefer Firefox: Microsoft is a convicted criminal.
After the conviction, MS donated lots of money to the Bush Campaign in its (correct) belief that Bush would make a generous settlement during the penalty phase of the trial. Noone knows how the 2000 election would have turned out had MS not gotten involved, but I doubt that Bill Gates and Paul Allen believed that Bush would make a better president than Gore. MS donated the money purely to end the browser wars. Now we’ve got a real war. Sleep well, Bill.
Good experiment Amanda.
I’d be interested to see how many Mac users prefer FF to Safari though, I’d imagine it’s low - if only for the lack of default contextual (right click) functions, such as “Search in Google”, “Search Spelling”, “Search Dictionary” - which are fast and friendly in Safari, but buggy additions in FireFox.
I’d be curious to see the outtakes. I suspect there were a lot more “WTFs??” than we were shown.
I’d be curious about the outtakes, too. Anyone say “Safari”?
I use Safari for my day-to-day stuff and Firefox for my vloggy activities because it’s compatible with my posting editor while Safari is not. I haven’t made the full switch because it doesn’t seem to want to import all my bookmarks, and it launches really slowly. But I looooves me Firefox extensions!
And before we all geek out over the love for Firefox out there (oh, wait, too late!) let’s remember that this was shot in a super-hip, super-young, super-knowlegable neighborhood in the middle of a college campus. Do it again someplace else and watch the tide turn dramatically.
That being said, I’m out of here like a fox on fire.
Firefox. Only used IE once - to get Firefox. Why FF? Cookie management.
Opera is being tried. Seems to have problems with PDFs sometimes.
Firefox. Only used IE once - to get Firefox. Why FF? Cookie management.
Opera is being tried. Seems to have problems with PDFs sometimes.
Ooops! Amanda’s laugh caused a near-field synaptic loop. The resulting inductance caused a “digital” problem… “Dang finger won’t stop tapping send…feels like when I was a telegraph op……back in the day…”
FF definately.
why: more secure than IE, tabbed browsing, HIGHLY customizable with themes & extensions, its ‘net browsing the way I want it.
IE6 is almost five years old so I don’t think it’s surprising that better browser’s have come along in that time. What does surprise me though is that firefox has only been able to grab 9% of the market despite all the negative propaganda that is constantly slung at IE. I think this proves that most people just don’t care that much, they just want something that will allow them to view pages on the web, it doesn’t matter if that browser is IE, firefox, opera, safari or whatever it’s just not important enough for them to change.
I know a lot of people believe firefox is more secure, but if you compare the number of security vulnerabilities discovered in both browsers over the last 12 months you will notice their are just has many vulnerabilities with firefox, even though it has a much smaller share of the market. The difference is firefox vulnerabilities don’t make the headlines they are just conveniently brushed under the carpet. Microsoft have improved IEs security a lot over the last couple of years, but while it has such a large chunk of the browser market it’s always going to be the main target for things like spyware.
Personally I use firefox as my main browser simply because of the tabs and extensions, but that’s about it, overall I don’t think it’s that much better just more up-to-date. It’s not going to take that much for microsoft to get back many of the people who decided to switch to alternative browsers. Next year when IE7 ships with vista I think mozilla are going to have a lot of problems, not only attracting new users but also keeping their existing ones. They are going to have to either come up with some amazing killer feature\s or pull off the mother of all propaganda campaigns, or be left with just the M$ SUX! crew.
genius! future potential subjects:
-what has rss done for you lately?
-how often does your mom update her blog?
-what kind of rootkit do you want santa to bring you this year?
Not one of those people mentioned anything about the technical advantages of Firefox over IE (from a developers standpoint). Interesting. Better web standard support is the selling point for me, but then, I’m a web developer and not just a user.
One guy mentioned something about the name. Also interesting. On the computers I’ve set up for my family, I’ve had to rename the Firefox shortcut to “Internet”, just so people would stop sitting down and asking me “how do I get online?”. People have no clude what Firefox is, just by the name or icon. That’s one beef I’ve come to have towards its marketing.
Naturally though, I’m a Firefox user.
Opera
http://www.opera.com
The difference is, Firefox is being made by a HUGE community of coders that want a better product. IE is made by a bunch of people that have been making IE for years and years, they knokw they have and 85%+ market share and don’t really care if they bring in new people. They are just trying to get by and not piss off too many people. They are failing.
I have been using firefox for about 5 months, aside from the very first pdf I tried to view, it has not crashed once.
Those people didn’t say anything about RSS or the fact that I’ve never seen a popup on FF. Never had a dialer try to install.
Now as soon as people realize their are other operating systems besides windows…..
After using Unix in the navy, I haven’t been without at least 1 linux box in the house in 8 years. If it weren’t for windows only programs, Microsoft would not exist in my house.
I used IE for like ever, untill I started watching you. Now I still use it, after my laptop gave me truble. It is so stupid itunes, IE, FF none of them work right. (IE crashes less on my computer)
Question: did ANYONE have a good answer for Internet Explorer? Or at least an answer that wasn’t “becaue I don’t know what I’m doing.”
I’m a Safari user.
Interesting that so many of the people who posted on this item questioned the omission of Opera, which is my favorite browser, too. It has most of the features that set Firefox apart from the dreaded IE, and many others besides.
So here’s a challenge to Amanda and the Rockettes: How about a segment on Opera? You could set it to the Duet from the Pearl Fishers with Jussi Björling and Robert Merrill!
Opera?!? Ew. They only jumped on the free browser bandwagon recently because they weren’t able to get anyone to pay for that thing. In my opinion, they blew their opportunity years ago.
As for those that think IE users did not have a good answer, please remember not everyone is a sysadmin or poweruser, so they don’t understand the issues. Talk to them on their level instead of making fun: “J00r Bank Account will get P0wnDD gramma!!”
Did someone just complain about not including Lynx? Haha, c’mon now.
I’m glad Firefox has a pretty good following these days, but your survey was kind of loaded. How much footage did you edit out of people walking by and not answering your question? Those were probably IE users.
I use Firefox for work-related stuff because of the great web developer extensions. Otherwise, I use Shiira (http://hmdt-web.net/shiira/en), this open source browser based on Safari. Honestly, the only reason I use it is because I like the cool page-turn animation you get when going to a new page. Superficial, I know. Haha.
RB: there are some Casual Fridays that are very successfull … this is one of them … just satuday afternoon, and already 102 comments !!! soon you will have more comments about Firefox that for Chad Chesterfield and Co.
If you don’t get paid for this ‘advertising’, anyway you will be able to use those comments in the future to prove ad companies that you must have a place in their campaigns.
A little bit more than 24h of Firefox experience, and no problem til now.
ps: those posts give you a great idea of what’s you audience looks like. Many computer pro [I'm not]… maybe that’s why a foot paddling child or German songs are not that successful …
If you’d ask me, why Firefox, my answer would be. Mouse gestures and tabs. Some people mentioned tabs, but mouse gestures are just as important in delivering a speedy web experience.
If you’re using Firefox and have not checked out mouse gestures, then try that today.
I use Opera.
Amanda:
in a way, you’re right: comments are not a good measure of success: some topics are controversial, others not. It doesn’t mean some are found interesting and some not … and doesn’t mean some are more appreciated than others.
Also, I’m curious to know if you keep track of the number of connexions to your website .. well, I already know the answer (from your coverage in live from your internet hosting company)… but I don’t know the numbers ;) Have you experienced a significant (R)boom after the Dutch TV spot?
Thanks for the previous correction. Have a good Sunday you and Drew.
I love the “Firefox because it blocks all my cookies”. Like that’s a really smart idea. Personally, I use FireFox on XP and the new IE on Vista.
Definitely, Firefox which allowed have extension, so it a lot better than Explorer!
Firefox!
Amanda & Drew:
You should have finished the piece with the “Fox on Fire” clip.
Great stuff!
So, finally Firefox is the winner.
That’s good.
Bill must die ;)
Opera owns all.
I use both of them!
Greetings from Germany and Switzerland
What ?
No Konqueror users ?
Opera has some nifty little gizmos.
I prefer Moz suite’s history over FF.
I really love writing pages & finding they work fine in every browser under the sun EXCEPT Exploder
yeesh
what a dumb question.
Amazing that no one mentioned extensions. That’s my number one reason.
Barebones to barebones Opera kicks Firefox ass.
But who surfs barebones? Therefore the Fox rules.
thing about this video: As often happens when consumers get put on the spot by an interviewer, they just say what they think they should say.
you can tell some of the people who say firefox really don’t have an idea of why they prefer it - faster? my dad said I’d get less viruses?
It’s interesting the way that just word of mouth and buzz have generated a real brand for firefox, just like people generally thinking volvos are safe, people think firefox = intelligent choice. I think a lot of people that use it (maybe a friend/family has switched them) won’t even be using the tabs and won’t notice any difference.
just for background, I am only moderately geeky and switched to Ffox a year ago. extensions like mouse gestures and sage are neat, tabs are now indispensible to me, and you get less pop-ups. But I can’t tell it’s faster, and it definitely crashes more often than IE!
I use Opera browser for both scurity and speed over firefox. On the average Opera is about one version ahead of firefox as far as features go. I love the voice command and to have the browser read the pages for me. Together with dragon speak and opera who need a keyboard or mouse. The download is 376/kBs whick means I can get 100 mb files in 3 min … I’m happy. It also has rss,mail,and web all in one.
also it can play divx files
Opera finally has its first scurity update last month yes I said FIRST that is a good track record compaired to firefox (grin)
Hi!!
Ich bin auch ein grosser Fan von FireFox. Ist der beste Browser. Die Tabs sind super, aber vorallem die Extras (Mausgesten,…) sind der Wahnsinn. Open Source ist halt viel besser als alles andere!!
Viele Grüsse an alle anderen Deutschen, die diese Seite anschauen……
Basti
For me and many others the integrated approach is much better, so I would answer SeaMonkey (Mozilla Suite)!!!
Mozilla Firefox all the way!
Awesome video! Keep up the good work!
Let’s see. No one mentioned extensions, multiple homepages, or proper PNG support. I’m a huge fan of Firefox, and the only time I open IE is when I have to make sure a page looks OK before I send it out into the world.
Best extension evar: Web Developer’s Toolbar.
And my first browser: Lynx. First graphical browser: probably NCSA Mosaic, way back in the day, as the kids say these days.
Many of the people in the interview had no clue as to which browser they really liked. Most just didn’t like Microsoft. While that is understandable, the interviewees didn’t address the browsers. I use both, but I have noticed that Firefox does not handle all websites as well as IE6. Firefox also takes longer to boot, and scrambles the date on my website. I prefer IE.
I can’t believe people argue about what historic technology is better. Someone needs to recreate the way we browse… and tabs just don’t do it. We are using 90’s technology with a new skin and it is sad.
B.S. They are both the same…for me anyway. Firefox tabs are not that big of a difference if it can not access all pages and firefox often fails on me if i switch to another application on my computer. I have to have Firefox open and still and wait for it to load before i move to another application. IE is faster loading and people just want to be puesdo geeks and cool by saying anything but IE. Get a freakin life. How soon will they start to turn on firefox or mac if they start to become the monopolizing conglomerates in their niche. Posers and losers that want to be cool and different. I use both because both function for me and i have no prefence but had to vent at all those who are anti-microsoft .
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I can’t believe nobody mentioned mouse gestures! (e.g. All In One Gestures extension.) I can’t live without them. If I show Firefox to colleagues, it’s usually what swings them whole-heartedly over from IE.
Wtf is this shit it doesn’t even make any sense!!!! U lot r just freeks!!!!!! Who cares about it anyway???
Am I the only one who get’s the impression that this video was staged?
Not only do the people in the video look like actors, they even talk like their answers have been scripted.
The standard answer of the IE user was: “I am dumb and was to lazy to try out firefox, even though I know it is cooler” and the variation of the firefox people’s answer was: “I am cool so I use firefox… it’s much safer and faster and the tabs are great…”
Come on?! I haven
‘t heared this much of crap since my last teeth whitener TV ad… normal people would have answered: “What the hell is firefox?” Since most people do not even know it… so this was basicaly what made the advertisement lose it’s realistic touch.
Viral marketing… an you fall for it :-/